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The AMD in particular has the most fragile CPU IMC out there, neither the Phenom II X6 or Phenom II X4 can handle >DDR3 1333 without either increasing the FSB > 240MHz or CPU NB Frequency > 2400MHz or on ASUS AI Overclock Tuner > DOCP. Otherwise you risk errors, BSOD's, and problems.

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Example 1: XMP with (2) Kits, same or not = problems.

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In reference to having to overclock. sounds like the new FX bulldozer processors don't require overclocking to run memory at greater that 1333.

I've also seen multiple posts on forum where people have had to adjust voltage and dram ratio?? Confusing. I don't plan on overclocking, I just want my memory to run at stock speeds. So If I buy a gskill 1600 kit that runs at 7 7 7 24 I just want it to run at those advertised speeds.

9 9 9 24) and command rate.

Nope, LGA 1155/1366 on up to LGA 2011 is just as 'easy' or to some as 'complex'. Thank's above FSB : DRAM ratio concerns are a thing of the past.

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Example 1: XMP with (2) Kits, same or not = problems.

Nope, LGA 1155/1366 on up to LGA 2011 is just as 'easy' or to some as 'complex'. Thank's above FSB : DRAM ratio concerns are a thing of the past.

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so DDRn (Double Data Rate revision number) the data is transmitted twice per clock; the top and bottom of the Sine wave. So CPU z expression of DDR3 1600 will show 'DRAM Frequency = 800MHz'.

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One (1) Matched Kit with the correct Voltage per Chipset is fine. Two (2) Matched Kits is a recipe for an unstable system and especially with Balenciaga Day Bag Blue CAS 7 guaranteed BSOD/Post Failure and/or errors. Using the wrong Voltage RAM; example the Sandy Bridge should only use at Rated 1.50v RAM, so if the XMP sets the DRAM Voltage to 1.65v it's deemed by Intel to be too high and cause damage to the CPU over a period of time.

Further, as I said every CPU and MOBO is different on how to properly set the RAM per the environment. I WISH I could post a two paragraph answer I cannot.

Next, is nomenclature: Frequency in reality is a function of typically even number multipliers of BCLK or FSB depending on the platform and chipsets. Some MOBO's simply use 'DRAM Multipliers' while others like ASUS do the calculations for you in the BIOS as expression of 'DRAM Frequency'. Further, are the Voltages in general I only recommend using 'DRAM Voltage' and not the QPI/VTT/VCCIO/Etc aka as CPU IMC Voltage. Using wrong values can damage both your RAM and CPU.

The 'Plug Play' Defaults are what to do unless you know exactly what you're doing. I've written more posts on RAM than I care to count from folks assuming and arbitrarily making BIOS 'settings.'Nothing to be confused about, every CPU, MOBO and kits of RAM are different. The (CAS TRCD TRP TRAS CMD) are all that needs to be adjusted, most of the other timings are calculations from (CAS TRCD TRP TRAS). The Command Rate for most all >DDR3 1333 should be set to 2T and it's part of the Rated 'SPD'/JEDEC/XMP timings. an i5 2400 by default it will run DDR3 1333, if you have an overclocking Intel Chipset P67/Z68 then you'll need to adjust the BIOS to achieve DDR3 1600 and the Rated CAS Timings per Voltage, but on a H67, H61, etc DDR3 1333 is as fast a frequency as you can go those chipsets lock Bottega Veneta Large Cabat Price

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In general, I encourage you to either Google and look for a knowledgeable person/thread or create your own thread in Tom's Memory section.

Thank you for the quick and very detailed response. One of the other confusing things for me were the BCLK and FSB and you clarified that for me. Correct me if I'm wrong but BCLK, FSB, dram multipliers and frequency are all synonymous with each other. The only voltage value I would be comfortable adjusting would be DRAM voltage. I know Sandys aren't supposed to go North of 1.5v. I have no idea about Bulldozer.

One (1) Matched Kit with the correct Voltage per Chipset is fine. Two (2) Matched Kits is a recipe for an unstable system and especially with CAS 7 guaranteed BSOD/Post Failure and/or errors. Using the wrong Voltage RAM; example the Sandy Bridge should only use at Rated 1.50v RAM, so if the XMP sets the DRAM Voltage to 1.65v it's deemed by Intel to be too high and cause damage to the CPU over a period of time.

Nothing to be confused about, every CPU, MOBO and kits of RAM are different. The (CAS TRCD TRP TRAS CMD) are all that needs to be adjusted, most of the other timings are calculations from (CAS TRCD TRP TRAS). The Command Rate for most all >DDR3 1333 should be set to 2T and it's part of the Rated 'SPD'/JEDEC/XMP timings. an i5 2400 by default it will run DDR3 1333, if you have an overclocking Intel Chipset P67/Z68 then you'll need to adjust the BIOS to achieve DDR3 1600 and the Rated CAS Timings per Voltage, but on a H67, H61, etc DDR3 1333 is as fast a frequency as you can go those chipsets lock out OC's. To confuse you more, the FX default frequency is DDR3 1866 but the RAM will only run up to the fastest non XMP 'SPD' (JEDEC) which is often DDR3 1333; XMP is an Intel only 'SPD' encoding on the RAM.

In general, I encourage you to either Google and look for a knowledgeable person/thread or create your own thread in Tom's Memory section.

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often DDR3 1333; XMP is an Intel only 'SPD' encoding on the RAM.

Next, is nomenclature: Frequency in reality is a function of typically even number multipliers of BCLK or FSB depending on the platform and chipsets. Some MOBO's simply use 'DRAM Multipliers' while others like ASUS do the calculations for you in the BIOS as expression of 'DRAM Frequency'. Further, are the Voltages in general I only recommend using 'DRAM Voltage' and not the QPI/VTT/VCCIO/Etc aka as CPU IMC Voltage. Using wrong values can damage both your RAM and CPU.

Is it more complicated with AMD AM3+ motherboards. I've read where intel 1155 is easier to setup? Very confused. Thank you.

Further, when looking at CPU z keep in mind the actual frequency is 1/2 so DDRn (Double Data Rate revision number) the data is transmitted twice per clock; the top and bottom of the Sine wave. So CPU z expression of DDR3 1600 will show 'DRAM Frequency = 800MHz'.

For both platforms (1155 and bulldozer) sounds like in order to run ram at advertised timings I just need to adjust the 4 primary timings, command rate, and DRAM voltage to manufacturer advertised/stock specifications. Is this correct? Thank you.

out OC's. To confuse you more, the FX default frequency is DDR3 1866 but the RAM will only run up to the fastest non XMP 'SPD' (JEDEC) which is Bottega Veneta Wallet Navy Blue

Further, when looking at CPU z keep in mind the actual frequency is 1/2 Balenciaga Work Bag Review

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